BeingMe, I think you are missing my point. You and I both know you aren't going to get a divorce. I'm not putting you down by saying that. You and your H have been doing this cycle for 9 years. Your H knows this too, that's why he keeps doing the same things over and over. He knows when he goes a little far, then he brings you in close enough to stop things. Again, I'm not putting you down, but that's they way it is. I really think you should focus your energy dealing with things as they are and not wasting your energy on things that you aren't going to do.