Okay I needed that reminder, thanks azguy. Galbaby, I'm so appreciative of the time and comments ppl make here, I don't care if it is a lecture or a 2x4.

I think I did a good job with D15 today, kept up the positive attitude and didn't stop talking to H when she asked. I explained afterwards that we each are accountable for our own actions and I won't let her dad dictate the person I want to be. I want to be kind and loving to everyone. I did not, though, remember my part enough in R failure enough with D15. So that's a really good reminder and helps deflect some anger. It's hard to hit all the points when your kid is hurting and upset. I want to just be upset with her.

I left a message a few days ago for the Retrv office. For anyone that's interested, she said the program is strictly for saving marriages. That was probably a stupid question, but I was trying ask them if we would be a good candidate because we're separated and H hasn't expressed any desire to work on marriage. The lady on the phone said you pretty much have to be committed for the amount of intense marriage work. Maybe we'll be there someday.


M: 40
H: 43
D15, D17
M: 22 years
S: 7/12