I don't think I can/should keep the kids from their dad, or suggest that their dad is bad. We've been working this year on empowerment and basic respect, and the need sometimes to ask to be treated more respectfully or walk away. I think the kids need to be coached when and how to speak up for themselves, since they're just a few years away from being adults and deciding for themselves what their relationship with their dad is going to look like. At 22 my H decided never to see or speak to his dad again.
Adinva 51, S20, S18 M24 total 6/15/11-12/1/12 From IDLY to H moving out 9/15/15-3/7/17 From negotiating SA to final D at age 50 5/8/17-now: New relationship with an old friend __ Happiness is a warm puppy.