Originally Posted By: labug
We've all felt similar. We've all been there. The real question is do we want to stay there?
It's not a very happy place, is it? I don't like being here, and I want something to change.

Originally Posted By: labug
SP, I'm not trying to beat up on you but you take everything to a catastrophic level. I do that too sometimes. Many of the scenarios you listed are pretty remote, don't you think.
I honestly do not think they are. I think it is all very possible.

Originally Posted By: labug
I know this is, and will continue to be, rough for your D but if you and W can at least co-parent peacefully that will make a huge difference for her.
I completely agree. W agrees too. I sent my D in to meet with a counselor, and she feels that W and I are doing many many good things in regards to this situation. She also noted that D is regressing and acting out, which is completely age apropriate for a child going through this. That made my W feel better, but it made me feel like it is something that should have been avoided at any cost. I put my D first. W puts our D second, at least that is how I feel.

Originally Posted By: labug
I would doubt that the courts will loot the family corp and give it all to W.
Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant. What I beleive to be true is, the courts cannot really touch the corporation. That would be similar to my W asking for Bill Gates estate to write her a check because I have shares in that too. It just doesn't work that way. So in effect, my arttorney believes my wife will get NOTHING from the house, nothing from the property and nothing from our business. She is not connected to any of it. All that remains as "community property" are our belongings inside the house, some vehicle debt and child support, which equates out at roughly $350 a month.

Originally Posted By: labug
You and W may both have a different standard of living if you D and it's sad but that's the reality of the situation.
W has told me over and over again that all we have together is "Stuff". She believes that everything in life, with the exception of a loving relationship and children, is just "stuff". She makes it clear that she is not materialistic and doesn't need things to be happy. I guess that is her way of justifying the thought that things will very likely change for the worse, financially. We will just have to see how she feels at a later time. Those sort of things are really easy to say, when you're driving a late model German SUV and sipping on a Starbucks latte' while you cruise around town on your days off.

Originally Posted By: labug
I didn't suggest you were cruel or unloving, just angry. And hurt.

I know how crappy that feels.

But I also know there's a future out there for you.
I am angry. I am hurt, and I do feel crappy. Just look at my replies above. It is just crushing me that there is no second chance, no ratinoal thought, no real clear view of how things will be after D. My W is RIGHT NOW, out visiting with some of our guests, friends of ours as well as customers. She is having drinks and enjoying the sun and the property. I am on the same property running around doing work as normal....that is very very odd to me.

Labug. Don't take what I said above to seriously. It is just me venting my frusturation. I appreciate your kind words very much. You have helped me along my way SOOOOO much.

Thank you smile


Me:46 Her:38
My D: 11
Her S: 8