"Honestly when I read the threads of people you guys are 'getting through to' it often sounds to me like they are appeasing just to avoid asking why and getting splinters."
Mindreading. You're totally off base here because you haven't gotten your 'aha' moment. You can't speak for them any more than they can speak for you. And that's the problem you've been running into. You compare yourself to others or think that this can easily be understood or boiled down into simple concepts. It can't. You have to take what people advise you (whether you agree or not) and then apply it to YOUR situation.
Look up Power of Now's thread. It took ALOT of posting before he got his 'aha' moment. And it's not appeasement which is what you so rudely believe. People do get to that point. You haven't yet which is why you end up chasing your tail and keep asking the same questions.
In fact, YOU are the one who gives off the impression that you've had your 'aha' moment, but your questions and comments say otherwise. That's why you feel that 'everyone' (and BTW, don't speak in absolutes) is giving you 2x4's. They are trying to guide you back. You're like a cow heading to the water hole, but you get distracted and head towards that distraction. The posters are like the shepherd that uses 2x4s to get you back on track.
For those that do reach that point, you can tell in the way their questions are. You'll notice a shift. But there is an 'aha' moment. It's rude to say that others haven't had an 'aha' moment when it's you that haven't. And you'll know it when you get there.
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Emotion, yet peace. Ignorance, yet knowledge. Passion, yet serenity. Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet a new life.