Hey, my H will tell me anything I want to hear. He'll make all the promises in the world. Maybe it's my failure, but I found it hard to cuddle with words, you know?
It's beyond the fact that it hurts your self-esteem... this stuff has a way of creeping into your soul. I don't want to become so cynical that I don't believe in love anymore... that I don't believe in something better. I don't want to be that. Because in many ways, I've made strides in the opposite direction and I can't let him take that away from me (or better said, I can't give that back to him). I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's almost a satanic quality about the situation I find myself in.
I don't know, CV, but this is an unimaginable pain to me sitting here like this. I just can't imagine that you're immune to it.
As far as C's W is concerned, her actions betray her words. Yes, she has stated she had no feelings, however, she was also concerned about whether he found himself wanting to give up. She didn't seem to like that idea. Also, she found that she enjoys her time with him... asking for a followup "date," immediately following Saturday. This is neither an indifferent nor unfeeling person. Confused, she is. I don't get the impression you enjoy any time with your H.
As far as the debate you mentioned, I saw the same thread. And perhaps the difference is the WAY we experience those feelings but I'm on your side of the fence on this one. Love and hate are passionate emotions... indifference is a lack of emotion...