Originally Posted By: stilllookingup

I haven't asked any family member or his friends to "help" him change his mind.


Be very careful, because they will take it upon themselves to try and "fix" things. Like I said before, I've read many stories about how some relative promised not to say a word only to turn around and tell every other relative and then the WAS.

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I just want them to be there for him because that's what he needs.


Actually what he needs is time and space, not just from you but from relatives and mutual friends too. I specifically told my relatives not to talk to my W about our marriage, I told them by all means talk to her about anything else but not that. The WAS does not want ANY pressure, not from the LBS, not from friends and not from relatives. Basically they want everyone to act like nothing is going on, because they already feel shame over it and anyone saying something to them just makes them feel worse and they want to lash out. And inevitably the target is the LBS.

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I didn't have the rough childhood my H had so if either one of us has to step up and show him we CAN heal big scars, it has to be me.


Just remember, you can't fix him. Like 25 said, all you can do is keep the way home paved and smooth.

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Ours too! I cried like a little baby when Rick talked to xxx on the phone in prison.


Ha! Yeah, sad and creepy at the same time smile

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AnotherStander, did your w and you discuss what would the meaning of your separation was gonna be before she left?


We were in MC at the time and the C suggested a trial S. At first W agreed to that, she had a friend in a HUGE house whose H had just left, so I suggested she stay with her a while. After a few days she said that she would feel like a "hobo" if she did that and that if we were going to do S then it needed to be permanent. So when she did leave it was with the full belief that it was for good.


Me: 60 w/ S18, D24, D27

M: 21 years; BD: 06-14-12; S: 09-10-12; D final: 03-17-14; XW:57