EXPERIMENTING with physical touch with W

[leopoldstotch]

Oh SM you just don't get it I'm afraid. Tallula and gabbysmom23 hae both said it perfectly. So you want answers? Well my friend since I'm more experienced than you are when it comes to affairs here is your answer and it's not going to be what you want to hear.

You cannot and will not GET your W to work on your M or believe you are changed. As far as this "fog" goes believe me SM she is not a walking zombie who has no clue as to what she is doing. She knows what she is doing. She may not understand the consequences of her actions but she knows what she is doing.

Odds are SM your M is going to come to the brink of ending or it will end in order for it to be saved. That is the reality of your sitch. Go back and read the success stories of those that involved affairs and that is exactly what you will see. Those marriages were on deaths doorstep before the cheating spouse realized that they didn't want to end things. It also happened to me not once but twice. So you see there is no GETTING your W wake up the way things stand now.

I'am not aware of any successful reconciliations that involved an A where the LBS managed to get their S to wake up. All the stories I know of involved something drastic happening but bear in mind that in all those stories the LBS was truly ready to move on with their life. I've told you plenty of times that these were not tricks to get your S back and I'm not sure you understand that. I've also told you that IF their is to be a R that you two have a long road ahead of you. I really think from reading your posts that you are still looking for a quick fix and there isn't one. SM this could take years to resolve.