Navy

did she ever comment on changes in you after the EE workshop? (BTW I'm doing team next week).

And do you think SHE would ever consider going and working on learning how SHE can make herself happier?

B/C unless she makes a significant paradigm shift, I don't see her changing enough.


And a major shift won't LIKELY take place with regular marriage counselling... or even with ICs who are good, b/c we get interrupted b/c we only talk for an hour a week.

When I'd make a breakthrough or have a real insight, the hour would be "up" and i had to go back to work or pick up my kids and go home. The growth is very fragmented.

It's not "efficient" for growth and breakthroughs, like a long weekend of Retrovaille can be, or a personal growth workshop like EE is.

And she doesn't sound as if she's ready for Retrovaille. Hence my question about HER going to a workshop FOR HER and not "for the marriage", per se.

I say all this b/c I feel as if most of the marital problems today are hers, in origin.

WE know you were not perfect, but you sound as if you've been damn close for some time now.

It's her turn to grow and try, isn't it?

And more importantly, What are you ready to do if she's not interested or able?


M: 57 H: 60
M: 35 yrs
S30,D28,D19
H off to Alaska 2006
Recon 7/07- 8/08
*2016*
X = "ALASKA 2.0"
GROUND HOG DAY
I File D 10/16
OW
DIV 2/26/2018
X marries OW 5/2016

= CLOSURE 4 ME
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