I am a talker too. Became a listener insteAd. I think DB is also what works for you. Talking and communicating is what works for me but honestly and authentically. No more games H went lc/nc on me a couple of days ago. I emailed him today and basically in a nice way said wtf? He said he needs to figure stuff out and to do so he has to be by himself. I said that is true and you can't be good with anyone or anywhere until you are good with self. So I said I wasn't going to contact him but he could call anytime. Said it did not mean I didn't care. Just the opposite. So while DB does not recommend this lol I know it works for us. The 180 is not trying to force him to do what I want him to
So even bough they recommend the lc/nc, I think it is to protect you, not so much to make your wife see you are awesome and fine with out her