Originally Posted By: 25yearsmlc
total agreement with AS's take on Retrovaille.

and not to nag on the atheists or agnostics here, b/c It's not like I'm a great member of my church, okay? But I want to make a small point here. Something that's been in the back of my mind a lot lately.

Not sure I like the sound of this wink.

Originally Posted By: 25yearsmlc
But on the other hand, sometimes I hear too much resistance to ANY religious commentary,

There is a very good reason for this, 25yearsmlc. Nothing poisons and polarises an otherwise perfectly good natured marriage forum like bringing religion and politics into the mix.

Originally Posted By: 25yearsmlc
and it makes me wonder if that might be a reason so many of us are HERE in the first place...

We are here because we, our spouses or both of us did or said the wrong things, not believed the wrong things. Granted, what we believe impacts what we do and say but I am yet to see any evidence that more religiosity = more marital bliss.

Originally Posted By: 25yearsmlc
maybe if we stopped resisting the urges to justify our selfish choices and or really put our spouse ahead of ourselves, really worked on ourselves spiritually, maybe we would not be here at all.

True, but what does religion or a belief in a god or gods have to do with any of this?

Originally Posted By: 25yearsmlc
It does seem ironic that anyone here, in so much pain, would resist the changes that being a little more religious, might require of us. I mean, we are here on a "marriages in crisis" place...so a little more God seems in order to me.

In order for "a little more God" to be relevant, the person concerned has to be of the mind that there is in fact a loving, benevolent God. What good is that if you don't believe?

There were many times in my "sitch" when I thought it might be "useful" to believe, or that I might derive some "comfort" if I went to church, just for some human contact. That doesn't make any of the stuff they talk about "fact" though and I would have felt like a hypocrite, so I didn't go.

Banjopicker, sincere apologies for the threadjack. I think this is probably the main reason that these topics are generally avoided here.

This is your thread and we'd love to hear more from you.