Ok, I'm going to try beginner's mind here. I'm still not seeing this the way you guys are.

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you are still using all the old patterns to engage with H. This is why you are back to feeling like this.


As far as I'm concerned I WAS trying to interact w him differently - the fact that I can't even remember what he was goading me about proves (to me) that I was disengaged. But I guess in the end I didn't fully succeed. The old me would have yelled and screamed a lot more though. The new me tried to stay as calm as possible, but he really started to pressure me, as in, "It's 10:57, you're not ready and we are going." Who does that? Hey, I could understand if there were tickets or something involved but in this case - there weren't.

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I love ya Regretful, but you have to come clean about the laundry thing with yourself. At the bottom of it all, what made this so important?


The laundry: I do have a need to FINISH things. Wanted to finish it before we left. If it had been my choice, I would have finished folding the clothes, emptied the dishwasher and put away my oh-so-deluxe pull-out bed before we left.

Also, thinking about it more... I think I felt disrespected (him not respecting my need to spend 5 more minutes so I could finish) and some of the things he was saying to me were making me feel guilty, so I was also reacting to that.

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IMO, the "women who cheat usually have a career to fall back on" was nasty. How do you know he's right?


The comments - women who cheat usually have a career to fall back on, you don't understand the English language, you're not that welcome at my parents house - and whatever else he said that I honestly wasn't paying attention to - well that was his way of just trying to get under my skin. I said, "You're right" because I was just trying to deflect it, NOT engage.

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2011? You have a lot of resentment built up.

Yes. Yes I do. This particular incident stands out in my mind as one of the most terrible days of my life. You want to see my cry on cue, all I have to do is think about that night for about 10 seconds. I probably should be working on this in therapy.

So, someone please tell me, how, specifically, could I/should I have acted differently in this situation? I actually thought I did pretty well, but I ended up feeling angry and abused. He was trying to provoke me and it worked. So, what other than deflecting and walking away could I have done? See, when I deflect and walk away and try not to react, it makes him madder and he does it more, until I react. And I guess when I finally called him an a$$hole he got what he wanted because it was only then that he relented. Interesting to think about it that way.


Me54, H53
M 23, T 25
S20, S18
BD: April 2024
Moved out: August 2024

Love means not giving up on someone even if they've given up on you.

"Being right is the booby prize of life." - Susan Page