oh gee- i don't think they are "themselves" eithere- not the men we met and loved. i thought h washonest for 35 years too. i am not sure now- in light of recent years of dishonesty )(of one sort or another).
it's hard to veiw him as "lost" and hurting. i am not sure about it- i'm taking mwd's word on that- trying to anyway.
time will tell- hang in there and goodluck- i am going now for real...
