Drew trying to read your story. Also hard to follow it. How long did it take to DB your issues? Did you guys ever get physically separated? I notice you used a counselor who seemed to be giving you conflicting advice along the way. I feel I have that happening to me too. At what point did something click to you that you need to do your own thing and stop worrying about W. I read your early posts and lots of them ridden with the same types of comments I made. My W did this today. So confused. She talking about futuristic events so confusing to me etc..Seems like you were making lots of the same mistakes I've been making.

Did you ever discover EA or PA?

To be honest it wouldn't be that hard for me not to mention phones/flipped etc. I do like to journal on here. I am having a horrible week based on rejection from W again and also the mere fact I know she txting OM. I guess I'm human and it bothers me. But I do feel/did feel that me being open with my stuff certainly changed her attitude for awhile. She really appeared to be the same way. Until last night.

I read jack and beans replies to you. It does seem my W is going through some MLC cycles. Which are unexplainable and I know 25 and Mr. B gets on me for trying to figure out craziness because it will drive you crazy. It does seem some weeks my W talks about futuristic events as family and then week later it fades etc..

So here is about me going forward:

-starting up Qi Gong again. I can already see the effects of missing a week due to surgery.
-finshed the 5 love languages audiobook
-started Ekhart Tolles, Earth audiobook. His stuff tends to get deep