"I told my wife I was going to get some self help and asked if she could watch the kids."

Stop telling her things like that. You're just trying to show her that you are trying to change. Again, it's fake and she knows it.


"She asked what that meant but then I remember that you shouldn't tell her about DB and be mysterious so I just walked out the door. Score one for me!"

No that's a penalty.

"I got the book, but when I got home I was too tired to read it so I just watched the Falcons- Saints game."

Glad to see you have your priorities straight.

"My wife was upstairs doing something...probably sexting her new boyfriend for all I know."

And she will continue to do so unless you take things seriously and stop coming up with excuses about why you're slacking.

"After the game ended I went up to the bedroom to talk to her about things, but it somehow evolved into a relationship talk."

Of course it did because you probably spurred it on. What part of "give her space" don't you get?

"She said that she was sorry for calling me fat and ugly, but that I did need to loose weight to be a healthier example to our kids."

Good reason.

"I said "we both could do better in that department."

BS. Why do you have to keep throwing things back in her face and blaming her also? Take the criticism like a man and just tell her she's right.

"the Wife then said all the ways I was a bad husband and father."

I hope you listened. List those here.

"I asked her if it meant that we couldn't have sex. She angrily glared at me and started to get mean again."

WTF! Didn't you read anything I posted to you? You better get used to having sex with a box of tissues if you keep acting like a whiny, needy child.

"She called me a baby, told me to man up and said I should leave the room now."

She's right because you were acting like an @$$hole.

"I told her that I was the man of the house and she should leave the master bedroom if she didn't like it. She then threatened to call her dad (our landlord) I backed down pretty quickly and slept in the pull-out in the office."

I can see she's the one with the b@lls in the family.

"Then this morning before work say said that she was sorry, but that I needed to really listen to her now."

Don't you get it? She WANTS YOU TO REALLY LISTEN TO HER!

"I was so happy she apologize"

AGAIN, WTF? You should have apologized to her. You were totally wrong and can't admit it.

"and tired to give her a make up hug. She let me, but didn't hug back. Baby steps right?"

You only did that because you think it's going to lead to sex. All it's going to do is lead you to lonliness without your W and kids.

"I also decided to take a leap and ask her about Marriage Counseling. i know it might be early, but I told her that it wasn't to save our marriage, but to be better communicators with each other. She didn't say no. I figured that was okay under DB because it wasn't to save the marriage."

You didn't even read the book so how the h@ll do you think that is okay under DB? IT'S NOT!

Seriously, I don't think you realize how much of a d@ck you're coming across as. It's so clear reading your posts.

Are you serious about saving your M or do you enjoy sitting around alone crying all the time? If you don't start listening, you can kiss your W and your kids goodbye, and I seriously don't blame her.


M-43 W-40
2D - 9 and 5

Emotion, yet peace.
Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet a new life.

RECONCILED AND WISER