How many licks does it take...?

[BklynMom]

AS, I dont agree with you on this. Giving an ultimatum is guarenteed to give 2tp the answer he doesnt want.

Val is spot on.

SHe is depressed. Its a mental illness. She is saying and doing contrary things but she cant see that because she is depressed. Seriously this is a mental illness.

I remember your wife was seeing a terrible therapist who was essentially pro-d. Since she has acknowledges that she is depressed can you research and find MD psychiatrist to treat her.

I was seeing a therapist but having had a GOOD psychiatrist for the past year has transformed me. Being on the right AD is essential.

Seriously take the time and find a great doctor and maybe some how convince her to go.

I know it stinks that she keeps the house a disaster but do not clean it up. You need to just get over it. I hate living in a mess too but we dont live there she does.

I would talk to your kids about how they feel when the house is messy it may not bother them. If it does bother them maybe they can talk to mom themselves about a cleaning schedule that they all participate in. Maybe they can contribute allowance to having a cleaning lady come ever other week.

Your trying to control how she keeps her house and how she takes care of the kids is a bigger offense then her keeping the house messy.

Every time you tell her the house is messy she hears - you are a crappy mom. If she is already depressed hearing that she is a crappy mom doesnt help.

Hang in there 2tp. Be grateful for having 2 great kids!! We have missed you around here