What do you consider NC when he is not talking to our Ds either? Nothing to them either. A few weeks ago they told him, thru email (it was the only way he would communicate with them or me), that they were upset with him. So, he completely shut them out. Since then my Ds have been devastated and spend a lot of time at home. They are old enough to make their own decisions. I can't "make" them do anything. I tell them they choose the relationship they have with their Dad.

So going dark is different from NC how?