Thanks, I got very needy and clingy, and all it did was push her farther away, so now she says she has no desire to try and fix the marriage. I watched the videos and have started pulling away, but I am having a hard time because I want her to know I love her. She has given us until mid January. If she feels the same as she does now, and no improvement in her desire or an increased feeling of hope she will move out.