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Nothing has happened though apparently. Its all emotional at the moment.

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The other problem being that her knowing that I know has accelerated the separation talk.

How to best handle this at the moment?

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How do I avoid pushing her further away at this point?

Sorry guys, but I am going out of my mind here.

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Being calm is good. I agree don't guilt her or try to convince her of anything.

It's up to you to set your boundaries though. Explain what you will or will not accept in your marriage and what the consequences are for non compliance. Have you asked her to drop him?


M: A really long time.
Crisis: 5 years.
She's still worth it.

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She states that he is not the reason for our problems, just a symptom of them.

She says she has pleaded with me for the past two years to work on our marriage, yet I am only really hearing this NOW!

I have already admitted my failings in that regard but I also asked her why she wouldn't just come out and say what her issues were?

I dont think Im in any position to demand anything at the moment as she is adamant we are over?

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Avoid all relationship talks for now. Neither of you are in a place to make rational decisions or comments. If she brings it up just say you need time to figure things out, and go do something constructive.

Meanwhile, decide what your boundaries will be. Boundaries are not demands and she has no say in what yours are.


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She's still worth it.

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My H said the same thing in an email to me a few weeks ago. That his affair is a symptom of the problem. I truly believe he's in MLC. I wonder if by saying that, he knows what he's doing and that something IS wrong with HIM?



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"Maybe you disagree with the idea that some women, maybe even the majority of women, prefer a man with a more alpha personality who takes the lead. If so, that's ok, since I don't believe there are any reliable statistics on this. James already indicated he was overly beta, so it seems working to man up may be beneficial for his marriage, but that's for him to decide.

"You're in no position to take the reins now!" means that I believe because his M is on shaky ground, it would be best to proceed carefully with any Alpha Man Plan. Clear enough?"

No, I don't disagree. I just didn't understand exactly what you were saying.


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!
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TJP, I haven't read your thread, but I think in a lot of cases the A is a symptom of underlying problems in the M.


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!
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Guys,

This feels impossible. Its been the day from hell.

Wife keeps bringing R up, I try to stop it but it just keeps coming round.

The funny part? Met OM wife in the mall (my wife works with her) and pretended all was OK. How screwed up is that?

Im at my wits end. Please tell me what I should be doing right now to put a stop to the quickening march to separation?

Im so angry yet I still love her and in some ways pity her.

This guy is 55!!! I am 37 and she is 36. Its so messed up I feel like I dont know if Im coming or going.

Sorry to sound so messed up but I feel all my progress in the last 2-3 weeks has been completely wiped out in one day.

Can this ever be recovered?

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