Thanks Ed! And thanks for reading this thread... if you want to read about how much crazier I was... follow those threads back to the beginning...
But get comfortable, because it'll take a while!
And about the "Fear"... Like I said, it's not really important and doesn't take up residence... It was mostly to illustrate the point I was trying to make about how accepting that I'm making good changes and realizing that that needs to be reciprocated if I'm to be secure in a relationship with W again...
It really helps to think that way, for me at least, when I'm feeling a little down or missing W more than the normal amount... Reminds me of the progress I'm making and the long road ahead...
And I'd deserve every second of it Chatter! I feel pretty confident in my forward progress... I know I'll stumble now and again, but I've made too much progress and feel too good about it to backtrack!
We already know it's a non issue but I've never met a women that didn't like flowers. Just out of curiosity, what's that about?
Most women love flowers. With a WAW, it's considered pursuit, because she is not reciprocative of kind acts and guestures. It looks weak to them.
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That can be true and as in Daddy's case, and quite the opposite in others' case.
If you NEVER or RARELY did it for a woman who wants it, a well placed/well chosen flower can help to save the day.
It's best to wait til you are getting some positives, some signs that a gesture of knowing what is really important, can push you forward a few steps.
Mostly -- men have no clue as to when is the appropriate time. Ask a woman. Ask a woman about the appropriate flower as well. If you're sending carnations, just forget it. It's usually roses of her favorite color, which is usually red. It's one or a dozen. Or a number equal to her birthday or anniversary. Or some other favorite, flower. If you don't know--for God's sake, don't guess. It's one rose or a dozen, or 3-12 dozen.
