Hi Just to say it was actually Sept 97 that P's wife's behaviour changed which was her 40th birthday just days after my ex's 40th. P started to tell me about it in April 98. but I lost contact with them from Sept 99 till Dec 03. And P told me about his sitch in Late Feb 04 When he had just found out that my W had gone AWOL! Interestingly P's wife said to me at the time "why didn't you hit him (OM)" when I had the chance to. I was telling her about a recent confrontation (in Nov 03) with the OM.