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She wished she could get in to see the IC? Has she made an appointment yet? I wouldn't do anything about this.

If she says she feels pressured, I would ask her why, and really listen. Maybe she'll give you some clues about what's going through your head.

Do you have a timeline in mind? Have you communicated any dates/deadlines to your W? I would stay away from deadlines...Pressure is not good.

Keep us posted on what happens.

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No appt yet. The IC was moving into a new office. I simply said, "give her a call."

No timeliness have been stated, of course I'd love for her to truly want to work things before the holidays, but that's just wishful, if not wasteful thinking.

She has inititated any convo as if yet, thankfully. Then again, she might not at all.

I have to admit that earlier today / last night I have felt some anger creeping back in re: the sich being what it is / all of her confusion and what not. Thinking I want to scream many many times (internally). Guess ill use it as motivation for a workout. At least for now I will.
I'll update later and thanks for being there / here.

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Originally Posted By: tori2012

If she says she feels pressured, I would ask her why, and really listen. Maybe she'll give you some clues about what's going through your head.


Yup! ^^^^^^

This might have something to do with her friend's decision to break it off with her BF.

Keep us posted mate!


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No appt yet. The IC was moving into a new office. I simply said, "give her a call."

No timeliness have been stated, of course I'd love for her to truly want to work things before the holidays, but that's just wishful, if not wasteful thinking.

She has inititated any convo as if yet, thankfully. Then again, she might not at all.

I have to admit that earlier today / last night I have felt some anger creeping back in re: the sich being what it is / all of her confusion and what not. Thinking I want to scream many many times (internally). Guess ill use it as motivation for a workout. At least for now I will.
I'll update later and thanks for being there / here.

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Oops...double post above.

So anyways, nothing happened. Shortly after my last post (the first one), I laid down on the floor for a few - collecting thoughts in general. W came down and asked if I was ok. I said no, and went on to briefly explain a work sich that has me aggravated. Surprise, things other than my M can upset me. wink.
She then shared her stressful work day. Validate of course. I asked her if she wanted to expand upon the "pressured" statement. She said no. I left it at that; and then finally started to workout. Soon after I was done exercising, she walked by - withdrawn and didn't offer a goodnight. Oh well. Getting used to it. She did say she spoke with her sister in CA. She's pretty direct so I'm unsure of how come she's upset. Not my worry right?
This sister told me that I should sit down with W, and pretty much tell her to choose OM or Me. Ultimatum. I'm not ready for that yet. I have the back up plan of leaving / "respite" as you all have put it later on this w/e.

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Hi Afa
i agree no timelines - too much pressure for both of you
i know you - like the rest of us - will know when you are done.
i also agree no ultimatum - until you can handle being the one she doesn't choose.
However, from what W has said she knows OM is not what she wants longterm. Interesting friend has realised this in her sitch.

i don't have views on anger towards/forgiveness for OM - i've not been there.
i think i'd feel sorry for OM w his questionable morals and odd way of showing he cares for W by disrespecting her M
i think the forgiveness/compassion is for W and you have that in spades

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Tumbling, I agree with what you said 100%. Great minds do think alike :-)

Andrew, give yourself all the time you need. I believe the weekend getaway or even a full couple of weeks would really help to give both of you space.

Oh, and I would not ask out of the blue to expand on her statement of feeling pressured. Only right in the moment.

I see this OM leaving her life soon. The 6 months average duration for an A is true.

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don't have views on anger towards/forgiveness for OM - i've not been there.
--be thankful

think i'd feel sorry for OM w his questionable morals and odd way of showing he cares for W by disrespecting her M
--of course OM has questionable morals, but I honestly never thought that way

i think the forgiveness/compassion is for W and you have that in spades
--mind clarifying, the spades part?

Tori,
It felt more in the moment since we we're discussing "daily struggles," but I do see what you mean

I see this OM leaving her life soon. The 6 months average duration for an A is true.
--I hope it's her that leaves him wink

Thanks for hte support and all
currently, she has sent me several friendly even joking emails and texts. Hope that lasts and it's true, not guilt based.

I'll check back later.

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You have that "in spades"
English idiom
It basically comes from the card game Bridge where the top ranking suit is spades.

... to have it in spades .... means he/she has it 'big time'

Hope this clarifies!


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Call me silly or some other non-nice word.
So I have forgiveness for W big time?
Or she has it for me big time?

Sorry a bit confused here...
to add to the confusion, she sent me a text about how her blood pressure has dropped low again, is dizzy, afraid to drive, cannot get a dr. appt, and is f*ing tired of physically feeling like this. (This has been occurring for numerous days / she d/c'd a med b/c of it, yet evidently that's not helping her).

I am yet to respond.
I normally would swoop in...so this is a good thing, even though I am fearful for her physical well being. I am finding comfort in that she can call her gma for help if needed as she is watching our D11 today who has a fever.

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