Wonder

What a tough time you are going through. I can tell from your words you are fed up and through with the vicious cycle of hurt that these conversations seem to give you. I think you are right in the fact the WAS keeps going back to these same "reasons" over and over again and then come back to say that THEY are tired of talking in circles.

When the truth is THEY are the ones talking in circles. I have always been curious what would happen if we actually gently made an observation. I feel as if we are talking in circles because you think I will not consider anything but complete reconciliation while this is not true. I would just want the opportunity to talk, go to C, explore, go on dates, whatever to ONLY SEE if we have a possibility of building a stronger togetherness. ONly to see if that is possible, not anything else. I feel as if I'm not even allowed that opportunity.

He might just say I don't feel like it or don't feel like trying and that I guess is where the validating and understanding DR comes in. Then we just leave it at that.

I have also felt what you are feeling now. Resentment and your efforts are for not. Truth is you have given this so much and have been dedicated for this. He obviously sees that.

The other alternative is the Dobson, fully letting go and he will feel that. Tough love. If you are ready for it, that is your decision. He may come back. Who knows. If he doesn't and you are ready, you will be happier since all this weight will be off your shoulders.

I have to be honest, I have just recently been reading your thread so only you know what is right for you. Be happy, you deserve to be.