BTW, I am not sure if I should mention anything in the note to W about same rooms or not..maybe you can help to include that because W needs to know that we would stay at the b and b.
"...There is a marital retreat that I would love for us to go to. I don't know if it will help us figure this out, but I know that it can't hurt. I am definitely interested in going to it and am wondering if you might be as well. I want one last opportunity to work on our marriage. To truly take a look at our relationship. Then we can think about it and decide what we want to do. Do we move forward together or do we do it apart?It is set up where we'd be in the same room, but there would be two beds. Again, I'm not trying to pressure you at all. I just saw this opportunity and thought that I would see what you think about it. If you'd rather give it some more time and then consider doing something like this later on down the road, I am fine with that too."
not to quibble (and Rough, now you have two lawyers arguing about your wording AND at no charge!...ENJOY )
but why must he add in the part about "last opportunity" NOW? Why make it all or nothing? That's such pressure.
Why can't going to Retrovaille just be about getting some communication tools and being better co-parents and seeing what gives, from there?
The single beds, to ME, lessened the "Honeymoon" fantasy that some couples fear when they are not ready. If she balks about the ONE room, tell her "hey, it's got single beds so no pressure from ME"...
it is so not the honeymoon suite. At ours, there wasn't even a TV and honestly, that was better. At first, I didn't think so but I changed my mind later.
We had some real work to do. They gave it to us, and without any distractions around you'd be amazed how much faster you cut to the chase.
No quibbling 25! I was just incorporating the language that the retrovaille representative suggested to him.
Hang in there Rough. Let's see how she responds and go from there. Nothing else you can control at the moment.
M 43 X 38 T 13 W moves out of home 11/2010 Roller coaster from hell 2/2011-5/2012 I request divorce 5/2012 W moves home 6/2012 Good time 7/2012 - 1/2015 I leave 3/2016 process of divorce
)
I was just incorporating the language that the retrovaille representative suggested to him. 
