Turtles, Lists and Toilet Brushes

[needgrace]

zig, i am wondering if you already have your answer..

in that, the no talk rule is out of fear and pain...

and if we can encourage each other's better selves, perhaps others can feel safe and courageous enough to talk.

but always realizing that all we can control is ourselves... that we need to accept them where they are and that we are not trying to change, just encourage..