Thanks Tumb , Forever for your guidance .
Also my W has agreed to some counselling . Were going to a sesh in 2 weeks ( the first available and convenient slot ) . Shes still very reluctantly going and states its for her parents and me and our 2D's , and so she can say that she tried ! I said you've at least got to go with an open mind , and she says she will, even though she is a very strong willed woman and very stubborn and doesnt think anything will change her mind from her perspective. And maybe shes right , But I must say Im pleased about it , and i admire her for being 'willing' to do something out of her comfort zone .
She has said though she doesnt want to give me any false hopes , and 'at the moment ' the marriage for her is unworkable , and i should be prepared if we were to separate in the new year . However i asked her if something were to change in her way of thinking would she be prepared to work on our m and she said she would . So there you go make of that what you will ?
I didnt start the conversation either , she did but we had talked about counselling on friday and i said i'd organise some .
Ok , Forever you asked me a question ; her complaints about the m ? Right lets see , 1. No chemistry 2. no passion 3. stagnating not going anywhere ( she likes to plan things like holidays , doing up the house, our wedding ( i loved that time ) )4. says im attrative or handsome but doesnt 'fancy' me or desire me at all . 5. I think she feels like shes been in charge and to be honest she has , I wish id stood up to her a bit more and asserted my opinions more , but as she likes to be bossy i let her have the lead . I'm a laid back character , which she liked at first but now i think she finds it deeply iratating . We had our daughter( 5) very early into our relationship , (1 year ) and she said that, had that not happened , maybe we wouldnt have stayed together ? She doesnt miss me when i work away . Oh hang on the really big one that really gets on her nerves , is I'm needy and 'mardy' and need conctant reassurances . I dont need constant reassurances , i just want to feel appreciated now and then .Our sex life took a big hit after our 2nd D was born , ( she has another D my step D from a previous R ). I was prepared for it , but she never really wanted to resume it i think and in fact last year if id be happy being platonic with her . I dont think she gets anything out of our sex life and now feels repulsed by it . She just thinks now that we are co-habiting and she feels like she and i are missing out on full relationships .
As i say she has been really honest from the get go , but she cant help having no feelings for me as a husband , and i cant help still feeling deeply in love with her .
Its hard .
Im trying to pull away a bit but continuing to be pleasant and helpfull . Im going to try and get out a bit more with some workmates , my brother and whoever else really to try and get my own life back a bit . Any advice guys what else to do , as ive got 3 months before a probably potential separation ?
Really appreciate you lot you know , just reading others accounts helps .
I hope you're ok tumbling .


Me-36 W-32
D1 (my stepD)-11
D2-5
M-2 1/2 T-6
ILYBNILWY Bomb 6/2011
getting better - 10/2011
Bomb dropped again 7/2012