My oldest son and I are going to take my SUP and his ocean canoe and do a trip around Chinamans Hat tomorrow. I was talking to him about wanting to go and not wanting to go alone. He is a great kid, has been very supportive of me through all this.

I was getting caight up on other threads and 25 wrote something on Tads thread that really got my attention. She said:

OMG! Tad, if this "4 BOYS at home, some not helping/working" AND financial problems

isn't a Red Alarm w/ lights blaring, I don't know what is.

They are learning about BEING STUCK big time, from you.

You are spreading the victimhood around.

OUCH! My S22 had become a bum and I have felt helpless. But I bet he is learning from me. I have been making movement and trying to say the right things to him to get him unstuck. I guess a little less talk and a little more action is what is required!

Because I certainly can't afford to support him forever.

Me 57 XH 58 Sons age 32 & 27 M:32
D final 9/12
Bought 10 Acres and Living the Dream!