Well, sometimes taking all the lawyers, counselors and other paid professionals out of it and just sitting down to "Talk" can actually be good. Not that I'm recommending it here but it could save you both a lot of time and expense.

It is hard to "talk" to an irrational person with an agenda. I'm all too familiar with it. But you might agree to "listen". And take it under advisement. At least you'd know what you're up against.

I think it was wise to go to the counselor and to make appt with same. They are your children too.

Barb