can Turtles still stand?

[needgrace]

me too... a round of some big shots please! is it so so strange that we are frequently dealing with similar things at the same time...

zig, i hope i did not make you more upset w/ H about the eye rolling, i just think it is something important to talk about bc of how it impacts S...in that making sure he does not think it is acceptable way to treat you or anyone else.. but of course, talk when you are calm and i love the way you can take ownership for your role..

and hugs for you always! i agree, it can feel da** lonely.. ((((((((((((((((((((((( ))))))))))))))))))))))))

p.s. i love busting's phrase too