Rough: I guess i'd fall on the other side of the donut thing. I'd go ahead and do it as long as its done nonchalantly and without expectation. And as Accuray said, if it seems like a positive thing then wait a good while before you do anything else....if it seems negative, oh well accept and move one. My wife was indifferent so its not really something i'll be doing again anytime soon. She said thank you and acted like it was a nice thing, but really I could tell she didnt really think much of it. As far as the hug goes....I asked if I could hug her and she agreed. Probably not something thats gonna happen again as far as im concerned unless she initiates it. Early on we were talking a little more and we would hug each time before we parted....kind of a mutual thing and one day she kissed me on the cheek...i made a comment about liking it and it hasn't happened since. After that I was too stupid/slow to realize that i was initiating each hug, and the last couple of times i've even asked if it was ok. As much as im gonna miss it, thats over for me....i gave up the "i love you's" a while back b/c I was afraid it was forcing her to say something in return she wasn't really feeling...im giving up the hugs now because i feel like I need to be really dark and unavailable for a bit.
