Originally Posted By: chatterbug
Originally Posted By: Kaffe Diem
Thanks for that post, chatter.

I completely understand your perspective. A part of my reason to start these threads of course, is so newbies can educate themselves on these topics. And also, to learn why vets (myself included) have certain reasons to, for lack of a better term, promote their preferred DB method.

I can see how you did not think the WAS in question was coming back and I do agree that, especially as untreated bi-polar, it really was a crap shoot as to the end result.


KD I have a ton of respect for you. You have paid back in spades here. And no doubt in life as well. I think that you fully understand boundaries and how it fits in with DB methods.

My intent was not to say that you were promoting being an enabler or door mat or any other expression that fits here.

I was offering my opinion on the subject and I am look forward to reading and conversing about the subject with people who I have respect for their opinions.

Which is everyone on this thread.


Totally. That's what I'm getting out of this, as well.

Also Jack, I do understand your concern. I think I was here the last time a more... animated discussion on these topics happened. I hope we don't cross that line here. I think everyone so far is being respectful of that line.

And the usual disclaimer...

newbies who are reading this, as always, you make your own decisions and conclusions. I hope no one feels put off or offended by any comments on this thread.