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The invoice is in the mail. LOL.

I honestly didn't think it was going to fit.


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Originally Posted By: Denver_2010
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WITHOUT those things? I'd put the recidivism rate way northward of 90%.


And not to quibble with you Starsky... we've done a bit of that over the months... but where do you come up with this stat?

I'm not sure that I believe it under any circumstances.


It's been my experience and observation. Take it for what it's worth, and don't say I didn't warn you.

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Originally Posted By: Denver2010
IF my W ever gives me a reason to lose trust in her again, I am done with my M to her. If she ever has contact with OM again (that can be attributed to her actions Jack), I am done wtih my M to her. I've been very clear with her on both of these points.





And how would you know, if not for a transparency plan?


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Originally Posted By: Starsky309
Originally Posted By: Denver_2010
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WITHOUT those things? I'd put the recidivism rate way northward of 90%.


And not to quibble with you Starsky... we've done a bit of that over the months... but where do you come up with this stat?

I'm not sure that I believe it under any circumstances.


It's been my experience and observation. Take it for what it's worth, and don't say I didn't warn you.

Starsky


I think I heard somewhere that 76% of all statistics on the internet are made up. wink


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I don't agree with the numbers. I do agree with the message.

I think transparency is vital, on both sides, during this process, and it is a process.

I believe this to be 100% true in my case.

Here is the potential problem that I see in your case though...

She doesn't think (outloud, to you) that she did anything wrong.

However since you guys are talking, does she understand that while she doesn't feel that way, that you do? And because of that transparency on her part will help your (both) relationship heal?

If she doesn't...I don't see her agreeing to or being ok with the idea of 'allowed/expected snooping' as it were.



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All of that and I forgot the point, the meat of the conversation as it were.

So Denver, what happens when she catches you snooping on her.

And lets face it; Murphy's Law and all that, that WILL happen.

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Will get back to you guys soon! Still on chapter 2 of Bond's book! smile


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Well things would be easier if I could just post an outside link. Just staying within the rules.


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Originally Posted By: MrBond
Well things would be easier if I could just post an outside link. Just staying within the rules.


and you have NO idea how much I appreciate that.



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Originally Posted By: Starsky309
Originally Posted By: Denver2010
IF my W ever gives me a reason to lose trust in her again, I am done with my M to her. If she ever has contact with OM again (that can be attributed to her actions Jack), I am done wtih my M to her. I've been very clear with her on both of these points.





And how would you know, if not for a transparency plan?


I wouldn't say that there is no transparency. I'd just say that it is something that we haven't sat down and actually mapped out. She knows that I am watching. She busted me looking at her phone a few nights ago. I had punched in her access code and was looking at her text messages and she walked in on me. I just sat the phone down and didn't say anything. She asked me what I was doing. I told her that her phone had dinged (which it had) and that I was looking to see who had messaged her. She asked who it was, I told her, and that was it. There was nothing of concern on her message list or on her email.


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