I have not been able to get a copy of either yet. These are just things that I have learned from my own experience over the last few months. I imagine that not everyone who finds their way here has read the books.
M 39, W 34 M 15 S 14, S 12, S 9, D 7, D 6 Separated: 7/2/2012 Served: 7/10/2012 Divorced 11/5/2012