Originally Posted By: 25yearsmlc
ironic, b/c every woman I know who has a h with ED, began by first blaming herself or assuming he wanted someone else more. Only repeated assurances and physical/medical explanations sufficed to reassure the wives. Anecdotal, but true.
Ah, good point. I kind of lost perspective there because my wife wouldn't mind if I had ED, as it would take the pressure off of her.

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I'm a bit shocked you cannot imagine that scenario when I cannot imagine it not happening, at least for awhile.
Yeah, well that's because my situation is kind of shocking to other people I guess. I've lost perspective.

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Well I guess I do see feeling close and intimate as being more socially redeeming or "better" than directly grabbing sex organs, but as a woman I'm sure you will say I'm biased and maybe I am.
Funny how this argument doesn't come up in a new relationship where the couple is excited about each other. Everything is seen as playful, funny, and exciting. It comes up only after a while when the excitement and newness subsides, and the couple doesn't understand how to keep things going, and they feel they've "fallen out of love" to some degree. Then what each person saw as romantic or humorous in the other person gets to be annoying. Then warm thoughts like, "he loves my body and makes me feel good about myself" becomes "he's just disgusting and grabbing". And the woman's need for romance gets to be seen as needy and sexually witholding.

I have to admit that, as a man, it always bugs me a bit that when you first meet a woman, sex is given freely. But then when you're married for a while, there's no sex unless you've fulfilled a long list of conditions. And even then maybe it's not enough. Small wonder some men go a little crazy when they meet the cute young thing at the office who's willing to give them sex without them having to do anything.

Where did I hear it.... women want to change their men, while men want their women to stay just like they were when they first met them.