Well that's encouraging as I do seem to be learning something at least! I did all say pretty much all the things that you mentioned but still got the "I'm done" speech after. I'm struggling to remain optimistic that she'll come around but I'm going to keep going with all you're book suggestions, IC, working on myself and so on and see what happens. Right now, I think what will happen is that we won't talk for a while and then she'll start with the house selling again. I hope I'm wrong!