Originally Posted By: Tinman

- I went back and read it again and tried to do it as an outsider but not that easy to do. Sounds like someone who needs to take control of their own life instead of letting those around him decide for him.


So what part of taking control of your life depends on you ?

Oh wait, I didn't see the 'but'...

You are correct...it is not easy. It's also not impossible

Nothing in life that is worth doing, is ever easy.

It is the 'but' that allows you an out, when the going gets tough


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- Co-Dependency – I have started reading the book but right now not much.


I'm afraid to ask about this 'but'.....


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- Food / Shopping addiction – I went to an over eater’s anonymous meeting. A bit of a bust but looking to go back to additional meetings and to listen and understand how to better address my addiction/dependencies.


So are you going back ? Or is the 'but' gonna keep you away ?

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- Social – Working on pushing myself out of comfort zone and yes it is difficult. I have some issues to address. Need to be a little more humble, less critical, less sarcastic, more open and accepting of others. Wow I sound like a complete looser!


What I did early on, was to make a list of qualities that I wanted to show the world everyday. I wanted to be that person, and show those things regardless what anyone around me did.

My goal was to be that person, regardless the reaction, not to induce a reaction.

What do you want to show the world ????

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Custody of my kids – Being a father is one thing that I think I do well. My EW managed to mess me up pretty good. I know step up and be a man…


No...she didn't mess you up...

YOU allowed yourself to be messed up. There is a difference.

Stop blaming another person for your shortcomings.

So yea, step up and own your stuff....


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I know that this is the right thing to do for my kids. I hate that it is tearing my W and I apart. In the long run I do know that this is the only shot I have at keeping my kids safe and my new family together.


If it is the right thing to do...then stop F-ing around and do it. Do it for you, and nobody else.

If you do it for any other person, then you will allow them to dictate your life to you.

Do it because it is the right thing to do.


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What is there to be afraid of- Loosing because if I can’t get the court to listen this time I am done in so many ways. My girls will have to keep enduring a physically and emotionally abusive mother and I will certainly loose the only woman who has ever made me feel truly loved! So yes I am a little concerned especially having been through this before.



I'm not entirely understanding the process you are dealing with in court. Is this ongoing ? Has been for over 6 years ?

What is in bold....has already happened, so if you are fearing that....it's a little too late.

I'm not saying that it can't happen again, just for all intents and purpose......it's already happened.



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Can you help me understand the comment about owning the but’s.


I do follow that it starts with my thoughts and that it appears that I am making excuses.



I hope that you can decipher from the above comments what I am trying to get you to see.

Maybe it's time to get out the oil can Tinman.....

You aren't going to talk your way out of something you acted your way into....