Your situation is so similar to mine. My kids cannot speak their mind with their father because he does not want to hear the truth. If my kids talk honestly about what he did or OW he will rage or chastise them because he wants to keep the lie and fantasy going. It is like you say, there is a white elephant in the room. My youngest is 7. She told ex last week that she does not want to come over to his house anymore. She would still like to see him but she does not want anymore overnights with him. This was the first time any of my children expressed exactly what they wanted. She was proud of herself even though he told her she "was a bad girl for saying that". All we can do is let them express themselves at their pace and support them through this hell. Ex has not taken my daughter since she told him that. I am so proud of her. She just does not want to live in his OW kooky world anymore and in her own way she knows something is wrong with him.


Me: 46 H:44
Together: 25 years
Married: 20 years
Separated: 11-30-06 Divorced 12-21-07
OW: EA began 2005
PA began end of 2006
3 children,20, 16, 6
ex asked for forgiveness
01/16/11