I agree! The big thing with female empowerment (that I've learned) is that just because you may see yourself and S act in one way...that doesn't mean they see as independent, empowered etc. I don't think men see it that way at all.

oh Zig I'd love to meet you too! Who knows what the future holds! LOL beginners mind and all!

So I've never put this on the board but for a few mornings before he moved out I would get into bed with him and cuddle in the mornings before we both got up and got ready. He was still dating her and telling me we couldn't get back together right now (but maybe in the future) and I was distraught and a mess. I don't like knowing that I gave him comfort and warmth and took from him comfort and warmth when at the same time I was hurting so bad from actions he was continuing to do. It's a dangerous game!!!

About a month after he moved out he came over and was flirting heavily even commented if we were younger we'd already be in bed, but we were being adults. And he even said he'd been thinking about our last night quite a bit. I don't know if looking back I don't know...but I was just like you can't talk this way when your still carrying on a R with her.

and that's what it comes down to for me.