LITB, thanks for looking in. You say you cannot talk yourself out of something that you acted your way into... My issue is i truly did nothing to act my way into this! I have my faults just like everyone else has. But my W chose this for no apparent reason. None! She is saying the breakdown of our M was for the same reasons she said she fell in love with me. My W fell in love with me because I was the way I am know.

Maybe I can clarify... As I am typing these posts, my W and I have very little to no contact. And even less talk about M. So I am really not pursuing or begging at all.