Bond, I never said "us"! I said me!! I appreciate your opinions and thoughts, but if I am to continue using this forum from ur standpoint, I would give up the fight. In her eyes, the only thing that would make her happy is a divorce. She is content with being apart, and not willing to do any thing to save our M. You may be a veteran on here from your number of posts, but you tell me to be compassionate about what she feels.. I have been for the last 3 months. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have packed all my stuff and moved. I feel she is doing this because she is confused about what she wants and what it takes to make a marriage work.