CV, he did not do it to get love, he did it from the perspective of fear and hurt, to lift his self-esteem by trampling yours -- unfortunate human tendency when we feel wronged.

So "His Needs, Her Needs" and the accompanying weekend seminar didn't help? Did it not help because the two of you couldn't execute it well, because no one could execute it well, or because it's fundamentally flawed?

I also saw the part about recreational companionship -- that struck a nerve with me because W won't engage in any of my recreational interests, and she doesn't have any for me to engage in.

It also recommends 25 hours of undivided attention time per week when you are engaged only with each other not watching TV or a movie and without your kids present -- how do you do that with a full time job and 3 small kids?

I know you've done lots of MC and now I know you did this. What else have you done and what's the usual trajectory? Does it help for a little while and gradually deteriorate, or not help at all?

Give "Passionate Marriage" another chance, if you get passed the sexual stuff in the beginning there is some good stuff waiting.

Accuray


Married 18, Together 20, Now Divorced
M: 48, W: 50, D: 18, S: 16, D: 12
Bomb Dropped (EA, D): 7/13/11
Start Reconcile: 8/15/11
Bomb Dropped (EA, D): 5/1/2014 (Divorced)
In a New Relationship: 3/2015