I have to say alwaystrying, the thoughts and feelings you express in this post are exactly how I feel. My wife is still in the house but is planning to leave ASAP and her only reasons are that she is "not happy" and the old favourite Love you but not in love with you. I am just starting out on my journey doing 180s and cutting back the smothering and giveing space etc. Reading the forums here has definitely made me see that what I was doing before, which is practically identical to everything you are doing/done has not helped and I need to try something else