I have to respectfully disagree that MLC is not some kind of emotional disorder --because I truly think it is. After going through it myself --seeing a husband who was a pillar in our church --and highly respected for his work ethics at the office --reduce himself to being a kid who had to seek pleasure and women --there is no other conclusion that makes sense. Also I sought the help of a highly respected psychologist --who spent quite a bit of time with my husband and with me. His conclusion was that this was definitely MLC --and that my husband had suffered quite a bit of emotional abuse in his childhood at the hands of his parents. The death of my husband's father (my father in law)-was the event that triggered the whole explosion. But in looking back over a decade or longer before this --I can see two different times that my husband almost went over the cliff --but didn't. I didn't understand what was happening at the time --but after consulting the psychologist --and learning from Snodderly's messages --I realize that he tried to enter MLC years before --but didn't succeed. Which explains why this time his foray into "outer space" has been much more pronounced and destructive. Yes --I still believe that he is responsible for what he has done --but for the time being he is in the ozone --and not ready to face himself or the ugly truth. Thank goodness for forums like this one --to get more information out about what is really happening! MLC is an ugly thing --but for the most part --it started with parents who whether well meaning or not --did some major damage to their children. And now decades later --the price is being paid. Thanks again Snodderly --and to all of you who are doing such a great job in explaining the real truth of this horrible "transition". Ottocat