Hi JAS, I am new to this forum and the ideas of DB. Have ordered the books but I am in australia so gonna take a while toget here. I am just starting to implement the 180s and pull back but as you say it is hard because it goes against everything you think shoudlwork to save your marriage. My wife has no interest in working things out and is currently out looking for a place to move out to. I am gutted as I did not really see this coming and she refuses to work at it. I am watching your post as I am keen if these techniques work. all the best for your R
