2TP - Testing....is that really it? Doesn't it seem rather extreme lengths to go to for a test? Let me divorce you to see if you have really changed? If that is the case, so be it - I am not arguing that it could be a possibility. It just makes my head spin a bit that she could think (or at least VERBALIZE) so many positives with regard to who I am as a man and a father - and still feel compelled to D.

Regarding verbalizing my feelings. No. I have not done that in a clear, concise manner just yet. It was my understanding that R talks were to be avoided. Also, I thought that such a conversation would be interpreted as "pressuring". Am I wrong in that assumption? I would be glad to admit if I am.

She knows that this is killing me, the loss, the pain of it - and she seems not to really care one way or another.