D18 says re Voldy "she always wants to do stuff with us but then all she does is complain about it, so why do it then?" and "she's always complaining that she does so much for us and we don't appreciate her" Yes, sounds familiar! You are dead on Mish, it's all about her, always has been and always will be. In all the years I've known her she's never learned to bite her tongue when she's like this, she just lashes out and punishes. She's her own Avenger! To be fair, she has taken the lead in the University stuff and I always tell people how glad I am that she is so driven because I'm not as on top of it as she is. But, if you have an issue with my involvement, then discuss it with me. She knows I am always ready to do what needs to be done. But, again, that's her. The girls didn't allow her to put a dent in their spirits, they just ignore it and carry on. They were singing in the car on the way home lol. As for SDA Lady, she sure is one of a kind and I appreciate who she is more and more each day.