PEOPLE do not respect a PARTNER they can lead around by the nose.
Fixed.
I have a thing about statements about "women" where we're lumped together and given crazy attributes. I'm pretty different from "women" I've heard about. I say what I mean and I mean what I say, I don't get emotional or irrational around my period, I talk straight and want to be talked straight to. I open my own doors. I carry my own boxes. I love masculine men who are confident. I grit my teeth when I see men trying to understand "women" through simplistic aphorisms. It's insulting.
I'll get off my soapbox and let you get back to your discussion, but if you think about women as people you won't go wrong.
Adinva 51, S20, S18 M24 total 6/15/11-12/1/12 From IDLY to H moving out 9/15/15-3/7/17 From negotiating SA to final D at age 50 5/8/17-now: New relationship with an old friend __ Happiness is a warm puppy.