thankyou for your reply forward, personally I feel there is too much water gone under the bridge now, if son and his father ever make it up it will be a long long road, and its not one that I ever want to be part of at this moment in time, seven years is a long long time to be away from your only offspring and for the interest he as shown in him son as totally washed his hands now, what happens in the future no-one knows, but I won't get in the way. People that see the ex have said he looks old and haggard, not the man I remember but he made his choices in life and one of the choices he made was to abandon his child and show no interest in his life, so be it xxxxx