I know that I am butting heads with you, mindfull and others in this, Starsky...
And that's my purpose here... So... cat's out of the bag, as it is...
That's OK. If we both agreed on everything, ONE of us wouldn't need to be here.
I just do think there comes a time when the poster makes their decision, that we should try to support them in it. I am VERY pro-marriage, and pray every day for Autumn (and a few others whom I counsel) to successfully reconcile their marriages. I still think she will, either through this, or, who knows, maybe they'll be one of those 20% who re-marry and have things be better than before. That's not in my hands, nor hers. Right now, I'm trying to -- in order:
1. Help protect Autumn and her sons;
2. Help build up Autumn so that SHE emerges this a better and stronger Autumn;
3. Help, if possible, restore her marriage.
Make no mistake: I'm pro-marriage, but my 1st concern when it comes to certain situations is for the well-being of the poster.