Originally Posted By: greenblue90

25, I agree with all you said.

You are also better at inserting the proper caveats I tend to forget putting in.

I guess I have a question for some of the guys that have "tried it all"

Do you believe you may some day get the sex life you want? Or have you totally given up.

If you've given up then I can understand that.

If you haven't then what's your next step?


For my part, I have given up. I realize that as long as I am in this marriage, it is highly likely that there will never be any sex for the remainder of this marriage. I made a promise to remain faithful, a promise I have kept and fully intend to keep.

I am living the life that is otherwise "comfortable" w/o sex. This is particularly poignant today since today marks 15 years since the last time I had sex with anyone (and that last time was with my wife).

So, no I do not believe that some day I'll "get" the sex life I want in this marriage. I had that sex life a long time ago, but no more.

Until a few years ago I was so resigned to this sexless life that I wouldn't really speak of it. Then a couple of things happened, but what got me thinking that maybe I had missed something, that I had not really "tried everything," was an article in a People magazine that someone brought to the beach on a beach vacation with out kids.

It was about 100 days of sex and the couple that had tried that and written a book (and the possibility of a movie) about the topic. The concept of the "2400 club" (100 days w/o sex or more than 2400 hours) got me thinking about my situation.

It also started me on my first steps towards weight reduction. From 1997 to 2007 my weight had gone from 189 pounds to a high in 2007 of 248 pounds.

I am now down to 180 pounds heading to a weight of around 175 pounds. For my age and height I am one pound above "normal" on the BMI scale (or 1 pound overweight). While the weight loss and my commitment to it has been noticed, it hasn't made any difference, otherwise.

So, at 12 noon today I can say the following:

15 year, or
5479 days, or
131496 hours.

But who is counting?

The Captain


Last sex: 04/06/1997
Last attempt: 11/11/1997
W Issues "No Means No" Declaration: 11/11/1997
W chooses to terminate sex 05/1998
I gained 60, then lost 85 pounds.
Start running again (marathons)